2008 Elections

More Thoughts on the VP Debate

After listening to last night’s debate, I’ve decided I want Biden to be president. He was well spoken, experienced, and answered questions directly and succinctly. I especially appreciated how he broke down McCain’s tax plan, something which I have been struggling to comprehend. If what he said is true, then health care is in a lot of trouble.I didn’t feel Palin articulated herself as well as Biden, nor did I feel her repeatedly referring to herself and McCain as “Mavericks” helped her to support any of her arguments. I was fairly outraged, by many of her comments, and her unwillingness to answer questions directly. I could only presume that meant she did not understand the question or didn’t know the answer, which was why she kept to topics she could answer.

When Biden suggested that as VP he would act as a consultant to the president, I really liked it. He has the experience which Obama lacks, and if it will be put to good use in the oval office then I think it will make for a stronger government.

I didn’t get the impression that McCain would be using Palin in the same capacity, and I don’t feel as though she makes McCain’s ticket stronger. Furthermore the thought of her in the oval office in the event that McCain were to pass on, I find frankly speaking, terrifying.

Comment:
This election has become so comcal that it has gone beyond hysterical. All that I see coming out of this is the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, no matter who gets elected. First of all, how can anyone who claims to be a true American, vote for a man whose middle name is Hussein? How can you vote for a man who despite how much he denies it, is a Muslim? How can you put a man in charge of our troops and National Security, who has never served the first day in the military and wants to tell ours troops that their service thus far is for nothing? This man in no way has the experience to lead this country in no way, shape or form. He has proven time and time again that he is nothing more than the rich man’s puppet. Look at his biggest campaign contributor and supporter, Oprah, this is a person who does not even believe in God and is pushing some phony cult-like religion on her show. Secondly, I have tremendous respect for McCain for his military service and his long time service in the Senate. However, his plans and views on the issues has some serious lacking as far as I’m concerned. I will give credit where credit is due though, at least he has ran his campaign on a reasonable budget, where Obama has spent more money than any other candidate in history. If we as the backbone of this Nation do not stand up now we are doomed. The largest amount of our financial decline has come in the last 2 years since the Democrats gained control of the House and Senate. Health care has been a joke for years and nobody has done anything to change it. The reason, they are getting to much money in their pocket from the insurance companies. Insurance is the biggest rip-off ever. Despite all the debate, if you truly want to fix tthe health care system, then adopt socialized medicine just like all the other major countries of the world have done. It seems to be working well for them. The rest of you can vote anyway that you choose, that is your right, but as for me I will not vote for HUSSEIN Obama and if by stupidity he does get elected, I will seriously consider packing up my family and belongings and move to Canada or Mexico. Probably Mexico, because with so many of them here illegally, then there should be plenty of room down there for me and by family. All I can say to the rest of you, is Good Luck because if you put the Community Organizer in office, you’re gonna need a whole lot of luck or God’s Grace to survive the mext 4 years.
from Stuart Lineberger
Comment:
From sea to shining sea…….. The current political race has all the charm and hype of American Idol! What happened to the focus on America and its steadily declining economy, the widespread moral corruption that has engulf those ideals so cherished by the founding fathers. Are we not now a nation of church goers who have forgotten the reason for the ritual? As we approach the wire in this most recent contest lets bring the focus back to the principles it’s supposed to uphold. The problems in this country are systemic they are not democrat or republican, black or white, male or female. It is the process that needs retooling and irrespective of who wins the election in November. If that issue is not addressed what was once the greatest nation on Earth shall continue to slip into the abyss of mediocrity.
from Wright Seer
Comment:
Carlos: The fact is, experience has little bearing on the success of a presidency. Have a read on Abraham Lincoln’s experience before he was elected. Or look at this way. Who was more experienced than Rumsfeld and Cheney and those guys> And how badly did things get screwed up? I think a president should be elected on the basis of leadership ability and an understanding of where the country needs to go - not where it has been. I have a lot of respect for John McCain as a man. But his campaign has been a disaster. If this is what experience means, count me out.
from henry
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Here is an interesting concept for a Obama ad that I wrote: http://www.newfunny.com/archive/?sid=209
from Omar Lutfey
Comment:
Unfortunately Biden and Palin are not running for President. It’s Obama and McCain. I think that we have all be swept up in Obamamaina. Sure the Senator is well spoken and carismatic. But do we want a President that is a good orator if we are being attacked? And let’s not forget other World Leaders who were carismatic and had a gift for gab. Everyone has jumped on the Obama bandwagon, but after all he is the “Junior” Senator from IL for God Sakes. Do we want someone who is still green behind the ears as President? Are we all just lemmings that we are letting THE MEDIA tell us who to vote for? I was and still am a Clinton Supporter. My Fellow Americans we have made a grave mistake. And there is no way to go back. We are going to have a inexperienced President with a House controlled by experienced polished Democrats who will weild power over our President. We blame the Republicans for all our woes, but the Democrats have been in power for two years now. What have they done? We say that McCain is Bush three, but is he really? We have only three weeks left before we are to make an imporatant decision. My Fellow Americans think hard of what you are doing. In this time of uncertainess, crisis, and up-hevel can we afford to have the Country controlled by one Party without checks and balances. Remember what happened the last time one party was in charge?
from Carlos
Comment:
Well, I have had time to digest the VP and Presidential debates. I am for Ronald Regan. I think Obama is trying to talk his way into the White House. I hear the same thing, over and over and over..give me a break, I am not that weak-minded that I would vote for a senator with only 147 days in office. When did he have time to vote for all the bills he said he has? He reminds me of the proverbial fish out of water, you know, flip floping all over the deck. My main concern is not the economy, that will take care of itself, as it has done many times. My fear is terrorists. I think they will attack again and I feel that Obama has no clue what is really going on with that issue. Can we have a do-over with the primaries? Paul
from paul costanzo
Comment:
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from Albert
Comment:
I also think Palin was the straw that broke the camels back. The shock of the pick was intially taken well, but as soon as she starting talking that was it. I build biodiesel processors which turn waste vegetable oil into biodiesel, so I just hope they speak about the economy and fuel more at the debate tonight. As the other poster said, we just need to keep moving in the right direction.
from Biodiesel Information
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Hi Basil, I agree. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain, but I think that choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate was a terrible decision. I might have voted for him if he chose Mitt Romney, who would have been very helpful in this economic crisis.
from Albert
Comment:
McCain’s choice of Palin as his running mate destroys any trust I had in him as a potential Commander in Cheif. If he’s willing to give someone like Palin the second-highest office in the United States for political gain, just imagine what his cabinet will look like. Even if McCain doesn’t die in office, it’s scary to imagine a McCain Whitehouse that’s full of underqualified members as a result of McCain’s own screwed-up version of Affirmative Action in the White House. Common people, WAKE UP! Everyone should see this 30-Second Election Forecast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEogMnwgAX0
from Basil D
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from The year 2048
Comment:
Obama/Biden seems to be the only possible chance that this country has to regaining what was once a supreme and confident nation. McCain will have this country at war, no matter where, just to take care of his unbelievable “Napoleon” issues. Sarah Palin doesn’t have a clue and I thought she came off in the debates as a woman who can memorize whatever is told to her, add a ridiculous wink that doesn’t appeal to America, and then…………the RUDENESS and IGNORANCE really shined through when she not only refused to answer the questions but felt it necessary to go off on a rant about the MAVERICK, HOCKEY MOM, REFORMER that she is…………….blah, blah, blah………What Maverick???
from Bonnie
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Can someone please explain if Obama is so darn good for this country why he is repeatedly linked throughout his political career to domestic terrorists, and criminals? I suppose all of us have had one or two casual connections in our lifetimes that could be questioned but come on – get real. Over and over again Obama runs with the wrong crowd…. William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Michael Pfleger, Kwame Kilpatrick, Larry Walsh. The man even had to leave his church of 20 years after he began his run for president because of “a cultural and a stylistic gap” (aka angry racist hate speeches from the pulpit) Interesting that for 20 years he thought the place was a-ok. The fact so many in America are on the Obama wagon is frightening. Has anyone really asked who is driving that wagon and where is it going? People wake up…stop the Bush is dumb chant for a change and research the facts on the character of the man Obama.
from DJ Alberts.
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October Surprise! http://neoconmccain.blogspot.com McCain’s chief of staff, Chris Paul: meddled at the FBI! McCain: consorting with Frank Gren, Blackwater’s lobbyist! McCain: doing secret projects for Wolfowitz with investor dollars! McCain: involved in illegal payments! McCain: not what he seems-don’t let the hockey mom fool you
from McCain NEOCON
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It was very strange, practically arrogant, that Palin kept on referring to herself and McCain as mavericks.
from Albert
Comment:
We don’t even need a new President, the one we have now will ruin this country beyond any possible repair. Hussein said: The way to take down the superior USA is to allow them to destroy themselves. It is working with the $700 billion bailout and the addition of “pork and earmarks.” The Iraq war has cost $10 billion a month. Take the amount per month times the amount of time spent there and guess what??? The total is $700 billion for a mistake that Bush made and McCain wants to continue with his inexperienced, uneducated, war-loving running mate, Sarah Palin.
from Bonnie
Comment:
For all you Republican supporters out there, please wake up. I have watched both Obama/McCain and Biden/Palin debates. I really haven’t heard any plan from the Republican with regards to the War or Economy Their strategy seemed consists of (a) attack Obama’s credibility and records; and (b) sell McCain as a Maverick and Palinn as a soccer mom. In the eyes of the Republican supporters, the campaign has been a success; however, I would challenge you to review Obama’s record vs. McCain’s. It has been said that Obama made inconsistent statement regarding the surge. The fact he did not support the surge but later admitting surge had “succeed beyond his wildest dream” is not inconsistent. Surge was necessary b/c we went to Iraq but the War was not necessary. Obama didn’t support the War and I agreed with him, although we both support the troop. There is a difference but Republican party didn’t want to you see that difference. Come on. Pleas wake up America. Do we really want another 4 years of the Republican Party in the White House with no plans for anything and just a lot of talk? We just had that for the past 8 years and I cannot stand for another 4. IF REPUBLICAN GETS ELECTED, THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR AMERICA. OUR COUNTRY WILL FALL LIKE GREEK, ROME, AND BRITAIN. LET’S NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO OUR GREAT COUNTRY
from Albert C
Comment:
Biden is very good at being a politician, though like McCain, he does have some health issues. Personally I think both McCain and Biden are good politicians, but I’m wary of McCain’s decision to choose Palin as his running mate. I really like how excited the voters are getting over Obama, and in the campaign in general, but like many, I question his experience, especially when it comes to foreign policy. In that light, Biden was an excellent choice. These days, foreign policy is only seen as important in regards to the Iraq war, and the economy is obviously a more and more important issue. I probably would have voted for McCain if he chose Romney, but now I’ll probably vote for Nader again as my state will almost definitely vote in Obama. Still haven’t made up my mind.
from Albert

VP Debate

Tonight’s the night: Palin versus Biden! Who will win? Does it matter? Stay tuned for details.

Here’s my impression:

  • Biden - [McCain is the same as Bush]
  • Palin - [I’m American and understand the average voter, McCain is a maverick]

So far, about 30 minutes into the debate, I think both candidates are doing a good job. Palin seems a bit nervous, but I feel that’s a sign of sincerity. Unfortunately, sincerity doesn’t go too far in politics. Biden is cool, and is not coming off as condescending at all.

Comment:
Joe Biden looks just like Pat Geary (the corrupt senator from “The Godfather” Part II)
from The Dwarf
Comment:
During the debate when Sarah Palin pauses she is showing signs of recognition, this is an indcation she is receiving direction from someone. They are not signs of recollection which are usually indicated by a forehead of brow furrow or a semi-squint. She is presenting with “open-faced” pauses with blinking recognition. I guess there was some form of receiver in the arm of her glasses. This is a professional assessment. This is not a fair debate, there are signs of duplicity that need investigating.
from Karen
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With all due respect and apology to those mobilized behind the Republican ticket, I believe that your candidate’s campaign is surviving on a diet of trite populism and arrogantly short-sighted naivete. 1) Biden answered every question as presented. He gave an earnest response and a concise reasoning for every single prompt. Palin did not. Palin seemed to recite answers she had been studying very hard for. Palin delivered vague generalities that no human would disagree with. I hope she get’s an A on her test. 2) In Palin’s “support” of woman’s rights and of education, she severely departed from the McCain platform and Republican ideology and seemed to land squarely in the opposition’s camp. She lent an air of public pandering and offered confusing contradictions to the viewpoints augered by her own party. 3) Palin had no retort in general and in specificity to foreign policy concerns. She had no reasonable argument against Biden’s assertion that the United States has exerted a ridiculously absurd proportion of our resources and attention towards Iraq instead of a real threat in Afqhanistan. While both candidates agreed that a strong US influence abroad necessitates deployment of armed services, Biden seemed to have a much better grasp of the global situation and offered rational and responsible tactics, while Palin unfortunately appeared to be leaning much too heavily on dogmatic party-line responses to both the realities and criticisms of the war in Iraq. It is so refreshing to see so many people interested and invested in this election. Both voting bases are energized and attentive. I only hope that the right and deserving ticket wins this fall. Best, Dan
from Dan

Debate Tonight

I was relieved to hear McCain was going to be debating tonight. I have been looking forward to these debates since the candidates accepted the nominations, and selected their running mates. For me this will be an important step in helping to determine where my vote will go. I’ve learned through my adolescence that what is said in the debates is not about the empty promises each man makes on stage. It’s about judging their character, feeling out who will better represent the United States of America, to the world and for Americans.

Most of their ideas and plans are empty rhetoric until they get into office, and then all bets are off. I freely admit that what I want to see is a statesman who can maintain poise under pressure, and who will help heal international relations. This is about making friends. Will the next president bring strife or salvation.In my experience it’s not what you say, but how you say it, and a televised debate is a great way to see how they respond when confronted with adversity live in your home.I have my favorites, but I haven’t made up my mind yet. What do others look for when they watch these debates?

I’m trying to find where the debates will be streamed live online (someone must be doing it). As soon as I do I’ll post the link here.

UPDATE: A friend got me the link (Thanks Mel!). Myspace is working with commission of presidential debates. You can watch live streaming of the debates here. If you don’t have a myspace account just select “continue as a guest”.

Comment:
If it’s true that Obama can’t produce a birth certificate for natural birth in this country how is it even remotely possible that he can run in this election? This is an issue that needs to be brought up now before it goes any further. If he wins that would make Biden President…Scandal…McCain should bring that up in his campaign,,This would be a huge changing blow and that would stick to the wall.! I also hear that gov.Palin is commander and chief over our countries defence in Alaska? Are there any truth to any of this mess? If Palin is trusted with something like this I would trust her to be commander and chief of this country and a lot of other people would too. Fact is Obama was ask by another senator of any accomplishment that obama had done..he couldn’t answer..he had nothing. Seems that all the press is praising Obama giving excess air time promotion but giving McCain very little coverage.What I hear the press giving is 75 to 25% ratio to obama. I think McCain should get the same ammount of press time. Press seems to be biased when in fact should be neutral in the professon, no matter of personal feelings.
from Steve Ertzberger
Comment:
If it’s true that Obama can’t produce a birth certificate for natural birth in this country how is it even remotely possible that he can run in this election? This is an issue that needs to be brought up now before it goes any farther. If he wins that would make Biden President…Scandal…McCain should bring that up in his campaign,,This would be a huge changing blow and that would stick to the wall.! I also hear that gov.Palin is commander and chief over our countries defence in Alaska? Are there any truth to any of this mess? If Palin is trusted with something like this I would trust her to be commander and chief of this country and a lot of other people would too. Fact is Obama was ask by another democratic senator of any accomplishment that obama had done..he couldn’t answer..he had nothing. Seems that all the press is praising Obama giving excess air time promotion but giving McCain very little coverage.What I hear the press giving is 75 to 25% ratio to obama. I think McCain should get the same ammount of press time. Press seems to be biased when in fact should be neutral in the professon, no matter of personal feelings.
from Steve Ertzberger
Comment:
Why is it ok for Palin to not have knowledge about critical information and be able to talk about being a hockey mom when our country is facing an endless war, terrorism, economic decline, etc. How can pundits say she did well? Can she deal with Russia, Iran, Syria, Pakistan? She looked like she was shaking in front of Biden. This country is in a crisis. We don’t need another false bill of goods. We need the truth and the truth may be painful.
from Christine
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I think the upcoming VP debate will go a long way in proving the Palin choice as either a great idea, or the biggest mistake. She will have to do better than she has in recent interviews. www.thesarahpalinstory.com
from Marlene Gundlach
Comment:
The debate was more of an argument about who was more like President Bush.
from Albert
Comment:
This might be the first election where the vice presidential choice makes or breaks the campaigns. I like both McCain and Obama, but I don’t think Sarah Palin was the right choice as VP. I like Dodd, but I think Hillary as the VP nominee might have made for more party unity within the Dems. The debate? Yawn.
from Albert

Interesting Website

I found this website today. It lets you estimate your taxes under the proposed plans of Obama and McCain. Pretty neat toy.

Comment:
Ralph, shame on you! McCain spent 5 ½ years in the Hanoi Hilton. As far as I am concerned I would count that as 11 years in combat. He turned down early release. He may not be a good politician but he is an honorable man. I really doubt any sincere veteran would take a shit on that.
from Doug
Comment:
IT,S INTERESTING TO HEAR MCAIN SAY HE,S BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY SINCE HE WAS 17 YEARS OLD.I AM 74 AND JOINED THE NAVYY WHEN I WAS 17,IT WAS 1951.MCAIN WENT IN THE NAVY AFTER THE KOREAN WAR ENDED.HE DID NOT SEE WAR UNTIL 1967.HIS TOTAL WAR TIME WAS 10 MISSIONS[ABOUT 20 HOURS]. HE THEN WAS SHOT DOWN AND CAPTURED AND SPENT THE REST OF THE WAR AS A POW.NOT THE BEST PLACE TO BE BUT IN ANOTHER PLACE FAR FROM THE WAR.I THINK HE SHOULD START PUTTING HIS WAR EXPERIANCE BEHIND HIM AND CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUES.PUT OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND FEEL SELF ASSURED THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT GO TO WAR UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY,AND NOT A ONE UPMANSHIP MOVE TO STRUT AROUND POPPING YOUR SHIRT BUTTENS AS BUSH STARTED OUT DOING.
from ralph santinello
Comment:
Here’s another interesting site. Sort of like an online mortgage calculator, but for McCain’s home… http://www.whencanibuymccainshouse.com/
from Joe
Comment:
It is not all about Taxes. What about our economy? Remember Clinton! That was the best economy our country had experienced. Since then, we have experienced perhaps the worse economy in the past 30 years. Wake up! I rather pay more taxes but live in a thriving economy than less taxes on a struggling economy. America is not a manufacturing country. If we continue to struggling economically, we will lose our value in the world. It is not entirely impossible that the dollar may someday not be worth more than the paper it is printed on. Let’s not let this happen. VOTE FOR OBAMA
from Albert C